ABOUT MUMIA AND THE SUPREME COURT

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By JAH-DREAD on Monday, March 6, 2000 - 06:27 pm:

MUMIA AND THE SUPREME COURT
____________________________________________________________________

By C. Clark Kissinger,
cck1@earthlink.net

The United States Supreme Court has two standards: One for white
supremacists and one for Black revolutionaries.

The case of David Dawson shows how zealous the U.S. Supreme Court can be
in
protecting the rights of white supremacists and other reactionaries.
Dawson
broke out of a Delaware prison, went on a crime spree, murdered a woman,
and was subsequently recaptured and sentenced to death. In the sentencing
phase of Dawson's trial, the prosecution introduced the fact that Dawson
was a member of the "Aryan Brotherhood" white prison gang, and had
swastikas and the words "Aryan Brotherhood" tattooed on his body.

When the Delaware Supreme Court earlier upheld the death sentence for
Dawson, one of the cases they cited as precedent was the Pennsylvania case
of Commonwealth v. Abu-Jamal. The Delaware court said that if Mumia's
membership in the Black Panthers could be used to sentence him to death,
then Dawson's membership in the Aryan Brotherhood could be used for the
same purpose.

The U.S. Supreme Court overturned Dawson's execution, with Chief Justice
Rehnquist writing the decision saying: "We have held that the First
Amendment protects an individualís right to join groups and associate with
others holding similar beliefs. . . . Even if the Delaware group to which
Dawson allegedly belongs is racist, those beliefs, so far as we can
determine, had no relevance to the sentencing proceeding in this case." In
other words, good ol' boy Dawson was just exercising his constitutional
rights to join a white supremacist organization, and how can the exercise
of his constitutional rights of free speech and free association be used
as
an argument for his execution?

But the Supreme Court didn't stop here. It went on to overturn the death
sentence of Dale Edward Flanagan in Nevada. Flanagan murdered his
grandparents in the hope of receiving a cut of their insurance money and
estate. He was arrested, tried, and convicted of the murder. But at the
sentencing hearing, the prosecution introduced evidence that Flanagan was
a
"devil worshipper" and "as antiChrist as it can get." Witnesses were
called
in to testify that Flanagan was part of a "coven" of devil worshippers.

Once again the U.S. Supreme Court was outraged. Here was a state
government
trying to make an emotional appeal to a jury by saying that good ol' Dale
was a devil worshipper. Worshipping the devil is protected by the
constitution under freedom of religion. This time the Supreme Court didn't
even bother to have a hearing. It overturned Flanagan's death sentence and
sent the case back to Nevada, citing their decision in the Dawson case.

But what happened when Mumia Abu-Jamal appealed his death sentence to the
U.S. Supreme Court? The facts were the same. The prosecution had
introduced
his previous membership in the Black Panther Party as well as his written
and spoken political statements (none of which were relevant to the case).
Was the Supreme Court shocked? Did it say, "You can't sentence Mumia to
death on the basis of his exercise of constitutionally protected rights"?
No, the U.S. Supreme Court wouldn't even hear Mumia's case!

This is a court that meets in secret, answers to no one, and doesn't have
to give reasons for its actions. In highly political cases like Mumia's,
its decisions have nothing to do with "facts" or "law" or "justice."
Constitutional rights shield white supremacists and devil worshippers --
not Black revolutionaries or any who speak for the oppressed and threaten
the system.

Real justice comes about only when the people demand it in a way that
cannot be ignored.

*****

ARM THE SPIRIT
P.O. Box 6326, Station A
Toronto, Ontario
M5W 1P7, Canada
E-mail: ats@locust.etext.org
Web: http://burn.ucsd.edu/~ats
- Saturday, 4 March 2000 -


By APE-DRED-BROTHA on Tuesday, March 7, 2000 - 12:51 am:

THE N.IGGER SHOULD BE HORESEWHIPPED THEN TAKEN OUT, TORTURED THEN FINALLY BURNED OR HANGED! JUST LIKE EVERY N.IGGER IN PRISON! 1-IN-3 NIGZ IN PRISON!! (18-27) WE SHOULD START STERILIZING, EXECUTING AND PUTTING NIGZ IN WORK CAMPS IN THE ARCTIC!! HARD, BACK BREAKING WORK FOR AOBUT 20 YEARS! BET THAT WILL MAKR LOTS OF BUCKS WANT TO DIE! BUT THEN, WHEN THE COMING RACE WAR STARTS, THE CAMPS THE GOVERNMENT HAS SET ASIDE OUT OF OLD WWII TRAINING GROUNDS WILL COME IN HANDY WHEN WE START ROUNDING UP YOUR ASSES EN MASSE! WE CAN THEN WIPE OUT YOUR ASSES (YO MAMA AND YOU SISTER-NAKED AND IN LINE TO DIE!!!!) ONCE AND FOR ALL!!!!!


By white_sickness on Tuesday, March 7, 2000 - 08:36 am:

Ape, too bad no one will be present, soon, to watch you when you finally slit your own throat with a butcher knife made by your suicidal, demented cave-dwelling self.


By Ancient Fertile Thoughts on Wednesday, March 8, 2000 - 12:20 am:

What else can we expect from babylon! babywrong will never change! Fire pon babylon!


By ignore_the_devil on Saturday, March 11, 2000 - 12:30 pm:

No need to respond to the devil. It wants you to respond. That's what its demented mind needs to feed its sickness. Don't do it. Ignore "it", everywhere, on these forums. Let's stay focused on the topic at hand. Thank you.


By Ancient Fertile Thoughts on Saturday, March 11, 2000 - 05:50 pm:

Think of the Amadou Diablo killing as the NYPD's way of Honoring Martin Lucifer Coon. In honor of "Marty" getting shot, they went out and shot another n.igger! Kinda of easy if ya think of it the right way!! Maybe if they'd have shot a few more we could have taken the week off! That'd REALLY honor old Marty Coon!!!!!


By ways of ofe on Sunday, March 19, 2000 - 12:23 pm:

Hypocisy as a Way of Life

By Marimba Ani. 7 February 1995


The following is from the book Yurugu by Marimba Ani. The publisher is Africa World Press. This book is the book to
get if you ever wonder why white folk act the way they do. In it, Marimba Ani explores the spiritual, historical and
psychological cause of European behavior and its effect on African people. I feel that this is one of the best books
written about European behavior and its effect on African personhood. It is written from an African center and is
thoroughly documented. If you buy nothing else this year get this book.


Hypocricy as a Way of Life

Within the nature of European culture there exists a statement of value or of "moral" behavior that has no meaning for the
members of that culture. I call this the "rhetorical ethic;" it is of great importance for the understanding of the dynamics of the
culture. The concepts of traditional European anthropology are inadequate to explain the phenomenon to which I am referring
here, as it has no counterpart in the types of cultures to which anthropologists have generally directed their attention in the past.
But with the concept of asili, which facilitates an ideological approach to the study of culture, the rhetorical ethic becomes
visible; even compelling. It fits the logic of the European asili, assisting the culture in the achievement and maintenance of
power. Without this interpretation certain manifestations within the verbal iconography of the culture appear to be inconsistent
with its underlying ideological thrust. And that simply would not make sense. Let us see how the mechanism of the rhetorical
ethic works.

The related distinction used traditionally in anthropology is stated in terms of "ideal culture" and "actual behavior" and is said to
be characteristic of all cultures, thereby helping to confuse the issue of the uniqueness and problematical nature of European
culture. The conventional distinction is illustrated in the following manner by the authors of a recently published anthropology
textbook.

For example, an idealized belief, long cherished in America, is that all doctors are selfless, friendly people who chose medicine
as their profession because they felt themselves "called" to serve humanity, and who have little interest in either the money or the
prestige of their position. Of course, many physicians do not measure up to this ideal. Nevertheless, the continued success of
television programs that portray the average American M.D. as a paragon of virtue indicates how deeply rooted in our
collective psyche the ideal of the noble physician is.

This is a common misconception that has led to a mistaken view and superficial understanding of the nature of European (Euro-
American) society. To refer to the images offered above as "ideal" is a misuse or at least a misleading use of the term "ideal."
The projection and success of the image of the committed, altruistic doctor do not indicate that it is a "deeply rooted" ideal in
the American psyche.

It is rather an indication of the fact that this is how Americans want to appear to others, most often to non-European
peoples-their "objects.'' In this case it is the way that the doctor wants to appear to his patients, or ''objects,'' because this
appearance works to his advantage. On the other hand, an image that projects him as a potential exploiter can lead to the
possibility of malpractice suits and to the institutionalization of socialized medicine-neither of which is lucrative for him.

An ''ideal'' should be understood to be some thing that functions normatively and something that is emulated; that which has
meaning for those who share it. It is the European experience that encourages the confounding of meaning and commitment with
mere verbal expression. (It was within the incipient European experience that "rhetoric" came to be regarded as art.) In African
culture words have power. The European mind is a political one and for this reason constantly aware of the political effect of
words and images as they are used for the purposes of manipulation. By "political" I mean to indicate an ego that consistently
experiences people as others; as representatives of interests defined differently and, therefore, as conflicting with this "ego." The
individual is concerned, therefore, with the way in which his verbal expression and the image he projects can influence the
behavior of those to whom he relates, be they patients (would-be consumers), neocolonial subjects, an opposing candidate for
office, or an African selfdeterminist/nationalist. This is what is "deeply rooted" in the American mind-the psychology of "public
relations," "salesmanship," and political strategy. It is in the Euro-American vernacular that the word "image" is used so
frequently. To be concerned with one's image as opposed to one's self is a European characteristic.

To be aware of the strategical advantage of appearing to be aItru- istic when one is operating out of self-interest does not mean
that altruism is a meaningful "ideal" in terms of one's value-system. It is, instead, an outgrowth of the propaganda that the
Europeans have fed "non-European" peoples since they first sought to conquer them. Because they exported ("sold") this
altruistic image so successfully, they have had to project themselves as adhering to this "ideal"; similarly, the projection of
themselves or their motives in this way has been essential to the successful imposition of this "ethic" on others.


By ways of ofe on Sunday, March 19, 2000 - 12:24 pm:

The basic principle to be kept in mind in order to understand this dynamic of European culture is that the major contributing
factor to the success of European nationalism has been its projection as disinterested internationalism,

The use of "ideal" in the passage quoted above is simply an inad- equate concept for the ethnological analysis of European
culture. Hoebel, in an earlier textbook, offers his version, which is similarly inadequate: "Ideal Culture consists of a people's
verbally expressed standards and behavior." The examples that these anthropologists offer from other cultures to explicate the
distinction between "ideal" and "actual" in no way represent the phenomenon in Western culture under consideration.

Hoebel describes "normative postulates or values" as "deep- lying assumptions about whether things or acts are good and to be
sought after, or bad and to be rejected."s This is precisely what the "rhetorical ethic" is not. Hoebel's definition can be used to
get at the converse of the phenomenon I wish to describe. A "rhetorical ethic" is not a "deep-lying assumption." It is a superficial
verbal expression that is not intended for assimilation by the members of the culture that produced it. The "rhetorical ethic," a
European phenomenon, has been neglected in conventional ethnological theory, which has consistently offered concepts devoid
of political significance.

Anthropologists talk about the gap in all cultures between thought and deed, between ideas and actions. The gap to which I am
referring, however, is between verbal expression and belief or commitment; between what people say and what they do.
Nowhere other than in European culture do words mean so little as indices of belief. It is this characteristic that is of concern
here and this characteristic for which the concepts of traditional anthropology are inadequate to explain.

As a cultural trait it has, however, been described by others, par- ticularly those who have been made victims of European
cunning. Below an indigenous American describes European behavior:

They would make slaves of us if they could; but as they cannot, they kill us. There is no faith to be placed in their
words.

They will say to an Indian, "My friend; my brother!" They will take him by the hand and, at the same moment
destroy him.... Remember that this day I warned you to beware of such friends as these. I know the Long-Knives.
They are not to be trusted.

It is an inherent characteristic of the culture that it prepares members of the culture to be able to act like friends toward those
they regard as enemies; to be able to convince others that they have come to help when they, in fact, have come to destroy the
others and their culture. That some may "believe" that they are actually doing good only makes them more dangerous, for they
have swallowed their own rhetoric-perhaps a convenient self-delusion. Hypocritical behavior is sanctioned and rewarded in
European culture. The rhetorical ethic helps to sanction it. European culture cannot be understood in terms of the dynamics of
other cultures alone. It is a culture that breeds hypocrisy-in which hypocrisy is a supportive theme a standard of behavior. Its
hypocritical nature is linked to the Platonic abstraction, to objectification, to the compartmentalization of the person and the
denial of the emotional self. Below Havelock characteristically understands the case:

Another thing noticeable about them [pre-Platonic" Greeks] in this period is their capacity for direct action and sincere action
and for direct and sincere expression of motive and desire. They almost entirely lack those slight hypocrisies without which our
civiliza- tion does not seem to work.

The distinction and definitions that can lead to a better under- standing of the Europeans and their culture can only come from a
perspective that is not one of European chauvinism; for it is the method of European chauvinism or cultural nationalism to
conceal European interest. As I use it, "value" is only meaningful value; it is that which motivates behavior and is the origin of
human commitment. Value determines what is imitated and preserved, what is selected for and encouraged. "Avowed values"
on the other hand, which are merely professed, which find expression only verbally, which are not indicative of behavior, belong
to what I have called the "rhetorical ethic."

The European rhetorical ethic is precisely that-purely rhetorical- and, as such, has its own origins as a creation for export; i.e.,
for the political, intercultural activity of the European. It is designed to create an image that will prevent others from successfully
anticipating European behavior, and its objective is to encourage nonstrategic (i.e., naive, rather than successful) political
behavior on the part of others. This is the same as "nonpolitical" behavior.) It is designed to sell, to dupe, to promote European
nationalistic objectives. It "packages" European cultural imperialism in a wrapping that makes it appear more attractive, less
harmful. None of these features represents what can culturally be referred to as an "ideal" in any sense. The rhetorical ethic is,
therefore, not dysfunctional in European culture.

It does not generate nor reflect conflict in European ideology or belief-system; but it is, rather, necessary to the maintenance
and projection of the utamaroho and performs a vital function in sustaining European cultural nationalism in the pursuit of its
international objectives.

The rhetorical ethic is made possible by the fact that hypocrisy as a mode of behavior is a valued theme in European life; the
same hypocritical behavior that its presence sanctions. Again, "value" refers to that which is encouraged and approved in a
culture. European culture is constructed in such a way that successful sur- vival within it discourages honesty and directness and
encourages dishonesty and deceit-the ability to appear to be something other than what one is; to hide one's "self," one's
motives and intent.

People who are duped by others and relate to a projected image are considered fools or "country bumpkins." Hypocrisy in this
way becomes not a negative personality trait, not immoral or abnormal behavior, but it is both expected and cultivated. It is
considered to be a crucial ingredient of "sophistication," a European goal. European intracultural, political behavior is based on
hypocrisy-as are business relations, the advertising media, and most other areas of public, and social interaction. It is merely a
manifestation of this theme when Americans claim that politicians are basically honest. The claim itself is hypocritical, and the
public expects it to be so. We all know that the objective of commercial advertising is to convince us to buy products so that
manufacturers can make large profits, but the slogans attempt to persuade us that the product is beneficial to our well being, as
though the producer has our welfare at heart.

This hypocrisy touches the lives of every member of the culture in their dealings with one another, and yet it originates in part in
the nature of their intercultural relationships. It is a part of the mechanism of European expansionism, All of these factors must
go into the understanding of the rhetorical ethic and not an overly simplistic distinction between "ideal" and "actual" culture;
perhaps a relevant distinction with regard to other cultures that create and are created by very different "cultural personalities."
Let us look more closely at this "ethic" and see how it has functioned historically. The Rhetorical Function of the "Christian
Ethic."


By ways of buckra on Sunday, March 19, 2000 - 01:04 pm:

CONT

The basic principle to be kept in mind in order to understand this dynamic of
European culture is that the major contributing
factor to the success of European nationalism has been its projection as
disinterested internationalism,

The use of "ideal" in the passage quoted above is simply an inad- equate concept
for the ethnological analysis of European
culture. Hoebel, in an earlier textbook, offers his version, which is similarly
inadequate: "Ideal Culture consists of a people's
verbally expressed standards and behavior." The examples that these
anthropologists offer from other cultures to explicate the
distinction between "ideal" and "actual" in no way represent the phenomenon in
Western culture under consideration.

Hoebel describes "normative postulates or values" as "deep- lying assumptions
about whether things or acts are good and to be
sought after, or bad and to be rejected."s This is precisely what the "rhetorical
ethic" is not. Hoebel's definition can be used to
get at the converse of the phenomenon I wish to describe. A "rhetorical ethic" is
not a "deep-lying assumption." It is a superficial
verbal expression that is not intended for assimilation by the members of the
culture that produced it. The "rhetorical ethic," a
European phenomenon, has been neglected in conventional ethnological theory,
which has consistently offered concepts devoid
of political significance.

Anthropologists talk about the gap in all cultures between thought and deed,
between ideas and actions. The gap to which I am
referring, however, is between verbal expression and belief or commitment;
between what people say and what they do.
Nowhere other than in European culture do words mean so little as indices of
belief. It is this characteristic that is of concern
here and this characteristic for which the concepts of traditional anthropology are
inadequate to explain.

As a cultural trait it has, however, been described by others, par- ticularly those
who have been made victims of European
cunning. Below an indigenous American describes European behavior:

They would make slaves of us if they could; but as they cannot, they kill us.
There is no faith to be placed in their
words.

They will say to an Indian, "My friend; my brother!" They will take him by the hand
and, at the same moment
destroy him.... Remember that this day I warned you to beware of such friends as
these. I know the Long-Knives.
They are not to be trusted.

It is an inherent characteristic of the culture that it prepares members of the
culture to be able to act like friends toward those
they regard as enemies; to be able to convince others that they have come to
help when they, in fact, have come to destroy the
others and their culture. That some may "believe" that they are actually doing
good only makes them more dangerous, for they
have swallowed their own rhetoric-perhaps a convenient self-delusion. Hypocritical
behavior is sanctioned and rewarded in
European culture. The rhetorical ethic helps to sanction it. European culture
cannot be understood in terms of the dynamics of
other cultures alone. It is a culture that breeds hypocrisy-in which hypocrisy is a
supportive theme a standard of behavior. Its
hypocritical nature is linked to the Platonic abstraction, to objectification, to the
compartmentalization of the person and the
denial of the emotional self. Below Havelock characteristically understands the
case:

Another thing noticeable about them [pre-Platonic" Greeks] in this period is their
capacity for direct action and sincere action
and for direct and sincere expression of motive and desire. They almost entirely
lack those slight hypocrisies without which our
civiliza- tion does not seem to work.

The distinction and definitions that can lead to a better under- standing of the
Europeans and their culture can only come from a
perspective that is not one of European chauvinism; for it is the method of
European chauvinism or cultural nationalism to
conceal European interest. As I use it, "value" is only meaningful value; it is that
which motivates behavior and is the origin of
human commitment. Value determines what is imitated and preserved, what is
selected for and encouraged. "Avowed values"
on the other hand, which are merely professed, which find expression only
verbally, which are not indicative of behavior, belong
to what I have called the "rhetorical ethic."

The European rhetorical ethic is precisely that-purely rhetorical- and, as such, has
its own origins as a creation for export; i.e.,
for the political, intercultural activity of the European. It is designed to create an
image that will prevent others from successfully
anticipating European behavior, and its objective is to encourage nonstrategic
(i.e., naive, rather than successful) political
behavior on the part of others. This is the same as "nonpolitical" behavior.) It is
designed to sell, to dupe, to promote European
nationalistic objectives. It "packages" European cultural imperialism in a wrapping
that makes it appear more attractive, less
harmful. None of these features represents what can culturally be referred to as
an "ideal" in any sense. The rhetorical ethic is,
therefore, not dysfunctional in European culture.

It does not generate nor reflect conflict in European ideology or belief-system; but
it is, rather, necessary to the maintenance
and projection of the utamaroho and performs a vital function in sustaining
European cultural nationalism in the pursuit of its
international objectives.

The rhetorical ethic is made possible by the fact that hypocrisy as a mode of
behavior is a valued theme in European life; the
same hypocritical behavior that its presence sanctions. Again, "value" refers to
that which is encouraged and approved in a
culture. European culture is constructed in such a way that successful sur- vival
within it discourages honesty and directness and
encourages dishonesty and deceit-the ability to appear to be something other
than what one is; to hide one's "self," one's
motives and intent.

People who are duped by others and relate to a projected image are considered
fools or "country bumpkins." Hypocrisy in this
way becomes not a negative personality trait, not immoral or abnormal behavior,
but it is both expected and cultivated. It is
considered to be a crucial ingredient of "sophistication," a European goal. European
intracultural, political behavior is based on
hypocrisy-as are business relations, the advertising media, and most other areas
of public, and social interaction. It is merely a
manifestation of this theme when Americans claim that politicians are basically
honest. The claim itself is hypocritical, and the
public expects it to be so. We all know that the objective of commercial
advertising is to convince us to buy products so that
manufacturers can make large profits, but the slogans attempt to persuade us
that the product is beneficial to our well being, as
though the producer has our welfare at heart.

This hypocrisy touches the lives of every member of the culture in their dealings
with one another, and yet it originates in part in
the nature of their intercultural relationships. It is a part of the mechanism of
European expansionism, All of these factors must
go into the understanding of the rhetorical ethic and not an overly simplistic
distinction between "ideal" and "actual" culture;
perhaps a relevant distinction with regard to other cultures that create and are
created by very different "cultural personalities."
Let us look more closely at this "ethic" and see how it has functioned historically.
The Rhetorical Function of the "Christian
Ethic."


By Fukk Shitskins! on Sunday, March 19, 2000 - 05:25 pm:

And at this time, n.iggers were doing what? Chasing monkeys up trees, kidnapping one another and elivering them to us, putting ashes on themselves and worshipping fetishies. Or just doing tribal warfare? N.iggers have not contributed in any way to history that they didn't have help on. Too stupid and primitive-look at he ghettos and how bad off ape-freak-uh is!! Stupid nigz, you should thank us for improving your animal genes into human!!


By ignore_the_devil on Monday, March 20, 2000 - 08:52 am:

I see the devil has been busy .... Let us get busy on OUR program for community uplift. Ignore the devil everywhere.


By Darkoverlord ( - 63.23.36.211) on Wednesday, April 12, 2000 - 04:54 am:

So what does all this have to do with the fact;Mumia is still on death row,we are still being murdered and imprisoned,and Wintney is on drugs. As to the 40 ft post,cut that she-it ,it doesn't work. I've read the book YURUGU,BUT I don't think ya need to drop the whole book in one post..People don't absorb as much as you think,keep it short and to the pt. Hopefully all of you are in some way supporting Mumia or some other political activist.If your not then all of this is just so much,empty mid class NEGRO POSTURING!


By Flannel J Woodstock ( - 213.104.77.92) on Saturday, August 19, 2000 - 12:43 pm:

Now listen up you fucking niggers, I DO NOT GIVE A •••• ABOUT your smelly arab friend MUmmia or whatever he's called I think he's just a POO HEAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well listen to me now 'cos I aint finished yet,
if you silly wogs get arrested your all like:
"Woh man, I anit been stealing no car, sheet, yo white men is always dissin me brothers...."
"yes but you just stole a car."
"Fuckin whities!!! You is always arrestin me homies for nuttin, yo average brother can't aint steal nuttin or kill no-one without gettin arrested these days, yo is always pickin on me, just cos I've got big lips and fuzzy hair, I is SICK you hear you wiggers!"
"Shut the •••• up you silly black bast......"
Now why do you make a big deal about being arrested this is because if you break the law you break the fucking law not because you are black or whatever, we're not all racist you know, especially me I'm black you know


By White devil ( - 213.104.77.92) on Saturday, August 19, 2000 - 12:50 pm:

Not, being racist (like the person above)
but if white people went round bragging about their colour than we'd be called racists, but...........if you do it..........oh it's ok, becuase your people have been opressed for milloins of years, blah blah blah. S
SO STOP MAKING OUT THAT YOU FUCKING NEGROS ARE THE BEST!!!!!!!!!!!!!
if you wanna have equality than it means you become EQUAL, not better.


By I HATE WHITES!!!!!!!!!! ( - 213.104.77.92) on Saturday, August 19, 2000 - 12:54 pm:

I HATE WHITES, THEY ARE TOTAL •••••, THEY GO AROUND SAYING THEY SUPPORT OUR RIGHTS WHEN THEY ACTUALLY COULDN'T GIVE A ••••, FUCKING WHITES, ALL SO PREDUDISE, MOVE WITH THE TIMES!•••• •••• •••• •••• •••• •••• •••• FUC


By wasaba ( - 216.98.77.141) on Monday, August 21, 2000 - 03:15 am:

What do you expect? In my view, fully three-quarters of black American males have some kind of animal savagery that won't let them conform to society's laws , so they are put away (locked up) till they can learn how. It would have worked , except for these filthy, fu*king liberal whores who insist on making those who toe the line support those who don't. I WILL NOT SUPPORT SOME BLACKS WITH MONEY WHO HATE WHITES. •••• YOU ALL!


By Halfcast ( - 213.104.71.68) on Monday, August 21, 2000 - 10:49 am:

NOw listen here brother, u gotta understand that all whites are scum, all the dumb ••••• are scum!!
Their all to rich like that motherfucking cunt David Beckham and that cunt Tony fucking Blair!!
Ooooooh I'm sooooo rich, yeah •••• the pigs too, even our brothers who have chosen to desert us at our time of need , actually •••• niggers too!!!
Yeah •••• em too, all those whites coming over to England, coming over from Eitheioper and breaking the law, and stealing, and when was the last time u saw a fat motherfucking eithiopen eh???:>??????
SO •••• IT ALL •••• THIS WORLD •••• EVERYTHING THAT U STAND FOR!!!


By Liam Blair ( - 213.104.71.68) on Monday, August 21, 2000 - 11:01 am:

I say, by jove, I couldn't help notice that u (see I can be "Hip" as well!) seem to be poking fun at my daddums. It really is not on! I've never even been to Eitheopier! I'd never be seen dead there (the eitheiopiens scum would probably eat me ....hahahahaahahahahahahaahahahahahaahah)
But making fun of whites is simply not fair when blacks have just simply giant lips, and 70's hair and your always getting drunk.
So go eat a banana or something but PLEASE, PLEASE PRETTY PLEASE WITH SUGAR ON TOP DON'T MAKE FUN OF MUMMYKINS AND DADDUMS AGAIN OR I'LL TELL MY CHUMS OF YOU AND THEN YOU'LL BE SORRY!!!


By ignore_the_devil ( - 213.104.71.68) on Monday, August 21, 2000 - 11:03 am:

•••• blacks •••• faced cock masters, your all arse ramming motherfuckers!!


By Nigel Wofford ( - 216.98.88.52) on Tuesday, December 19, 2000 - 03:51 pm:

KILL MUMIA


By Guy ( - 63.211.44.46) on Tuesday, December 26, 2000 - 10:12 am:

Regarding the introductory article in this thread by Mr. Kissinger, he is simply mixing apples and oranges. Mumia's membership in the Black Panthers was irrelevant in both the jury's finding of guilt and in his sentencing. One can take his membership in the Black Panters completely out of the equation and he's still guilty and the nature of his crime still demands the death penalty. The double standard is not with the Supreme Court, but rather with the likes of Mr. Kissinger who will readily forego reason and law in order to find some way to support a brutal killer such as Mumia.


By Darkoverlord steps on another in a long line of white MAGGOTS ( - 12.72.112.212) on Tuesday, December 26, 2000 - 04:09 pm:

guy more racist lies to support your ugly dead ass white cult-ure,vampire baby killing bastards!


By THE REAL DARKOVERLORD ( - 211.216.216.93) on Wednesday, December 27, 2000 - 12:10 am:

ATTENTION: This is from a convicted nigger-boy felon! His opinion counts for less than the color of his shitskin!!! Niggers are the source of evil in the world.


By Jim ( - 63.212.165.196) on Tuesday, January 23, 2001 - 05:18 pm:

It never ceases to amaze me the amount of support in the black community that the murderer Mumia has. It is precisely because he murdered a white police officer, brutally and in cold blood that blacks seem to adore so much. There is no question as to his guilt, and because he is guilty, he is loved by a lot of black people. That is very telling.


By White Vampire ( - 216.98.88.109) on Wednesday, January 24, 2001 - 08:54 am:

Finally--an intelligent person who speaks what everyone knows to be true --all his postings are matter-of-fact and to the point. Jim-my hat's off to you for setting the record straight for these scumbags!--( I've been fighting off these black racists since August).


By HRH-REALNESS DARKOVRLORD,STICKS MORE PINS IN WHITE RACIST DODO DOLLS ! ( - 12.81.65.20) on Wednesday, January 24, 2001 - 01:48 pm:

63EARTHWORM JIM AND HIS DEMEANTED SIDEKICK STILL CIRCLE JERKING THEMSELVES OFF AND NOBODY SEEMS TO CARE.HAHAHAHAHAHA FUK DAVID DEVIATE DUKE AND ALL THE REST OF THE CHILDMOLESTING PRICKS. I SEE ANOTHER CRACKER GOT LIFE FOR THOSE DUMB ASS RACIST KILLINGS IN CALIF,TO BAD HE DIDN'T GET THE CHAIR. MAYBE LIKE DHAMER A BLACK MAN WILL SNIFF HIS WORTHLESS ASS OUT TO! YEEEEEE HHAHAHAHAHAHA,RIDE THOSE CRACKERS TO DEATH. TO BAD OLD STINKIE DELABECKWART, DIED. I WISH WE COULD BRING THAT OLD CRACKER BACK AND TORTURE HIM,FOR THE NEXT 1000 YRS!


By Jim ( - 63.212.165.196) on Wednesday, January 24, 2001 - 02:01 pm:

Kim? Where are you when we need you? Since you took the time and care to correct someone else's spelling errors earlier, would you mind taking a few additional minutes to clean up the spelling errors on the message directly above this one? Thanks.


By Artsyblack ( - 205.188.192.182) on Sunday, February 11, 2001 - 03:49 am:

Not really familiar with how the law works in reagrds to death row inmates, but with all the edvidence suggesting that Mumia was set up, wouldn't Clinton have been able to pardon him?


By darkoverlord ( - 211.216.216.98) on Sunday, February 11, 2001 - 04:43 pm:

WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO PARDON A COPKILLER NIGGER!! IT'S GOING TO BE FUN TO WATCH HIS MONKEY ASS AT THE END!!!! ANOTHER NIGGER CHEWED UP BY THE MACHINE. THEY SHOULD BRING BACK WHAT A NIGGER REALLY DESERVES-THE PUBLIC LYNCHING!!! FUKKIN SHITSKIN BASTARDS!!


By Artsyblack ( - 152.163.195.209) on Wednesday, February 14, 2001 - 06:26 pm:

What are you, melanet patrol? I understand, if I had pink nasty pale flakely skin,a flat wide ass and a small dick...I would be mad at black people too. N**** don't die, they mulitply. Go back to your cave and hide like you're do on the net.


By Jim ( - 63.212.165.196) on Thursday, February 15, 2001 - 09:44 am:

There was no evidence whatsoever to suggest Mumia was "set up." What there is is an abundance of evidence proving that he murdered a cop in cold blood. It's not his pretended innocence that makes him an icon to so many black people; it's the knowledge that he is in fact guilty of what he was charged with that makes him an icon. He is loved because he killed a white cop in cold blood.


By zzzzzzzzz ( - 146.18.173.75) on Thursday, February 15, 2001 - 11:49 am:

Oh Jim-Bob stop,

who died and made u spokesperson for the masses
of Black people, half of the Blacks don't even
know who Mumia is or his situation..he has
support from blacks and whites because the
evidence is questionable, wouldn't be the
first time that a Black man has been falsely
accused...do some more research Jim-Bob before
you run off at the mouth, the evidence in the
Mumia case is cloudy at best...


By Jim ( - 63.212.165.196) on Thursday, February 15, 2001 - 03:51 pm:

Z:
I didn't say all blacks knew of him. What I said was "many black people." Many black people do, in fact, adore him. A few white morons do, too. In any event, the evidence was not questionable, and the only thing wrong with the trial was his bizarre behavior in it. The man is as guilty as sin, and any review of the evidence makes that abundantly clear, and there was nothing to suggest that he was falsely accused. If someone chooses to support him, it can only be because his prejudices outweigh his reason, and whether those prejudices are anti-white and/or anti-police, they are still prejudices and unsupported by fact.


By zzzzzzzzz ( - 146.18.173.73) on Friday, February 16, 2001 - 10:13 am:

Jim-Bob, u have obviously been reading
about the facts of the case on some
Christian Identity or Stormfront website,
"if" Mumia is guilty, then he should be punished
but that's a big "if"...seems u only want him
punished because he supposedly killed a white
cop...come on Jim-Bob, say it ain't so...and
the evidence was very cloudy, Mumia was a
perfect target for the establishment, Jim-Bob
you know that the boys in blue are not above
a cover-up, planting evidence, concealing evidence and straight up lieing so get off your
all merican bandwagon for cops because most
of them are just as vile as the thugs they are
supposed to protect us from....


By darkoverlord ( - 131.252.180.192) on Friday, February 16, 2001 - 12:18 pm:

DARKOVERLORD TO JIM ALSO WE MUST BEAR IN MIND THAT WE HAVE FRAMED BLACK PEOPLE FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS AND WE ARE STILL DOING THIS LOOK AT WHAT OUR GOVERNMENT DID TO THE BLACK PANTHERS AND ALL OTHER BLACK GROUPS OUT THERE TRYING TO MAKE A CHANGR FOR THIER PEOPLE. I KNOW IT MAY SURPRISE YOU TO HEAR THESE WORDS COMMING FROM ME BUT I AM TRYING TO GET MYSELF RIGHT WITH GOD BEFORE I MEET MY MAKER


By Jim ( - 63.212.165.196) on Friday, February 16, 2001 - 02:04 pm:

Greg:
I assume that's you impersonating Darkoverlord?


By Jim ( - 63.212.165.196) on Friday, February 16, 2001 - 03:07 pm:

From Z:
=Jim-Bob, u have obviously been reading
about the facts of the case on some
Christian Identity or Stormfront website,=

No, just boring, mundane news reports and news magazine broadcasts.

="if" Mumia is guilty, then he should be punished
but that's a big "if"...=

No, it's no "if" at all; he's guilty.

=seems u only want him
punished because he supposedly killed a white
cop...come on Jim-Bob,=

I want him punished especially because he killed a white cop, but not only because he killed a white cop. If he had killed some black guy, I'd still want him executed.

=say it ain't so...and
the evidence was very cloudy,=

There was nothing cloudy about it. He himself has never even denied it. All he's ever done is claim that he's "not guilty," not that he didn't shoot Danny Faulkner in the back and the face. Perhaps he hopes to plead not guilty by reason of insanity or something if he had another trial, but the facts of the case are clear: he shot and killed Danny Faulkner.

=Mumia was a
perfect target for the establishment,=

Because he's a murderer.

=Jim-Bob you know that the boys in blue are not above
a cover-up,=

The boys in blue have nothing to cover up. What they want is to see the person who killed one of their own, not some random individual, brought to justice. That's what every person of conscience would want.

=planting evidence, concealing evidence and straight up lieing=

And God knows no black people have ever lied, concealed evidence or killed cops. Not! In any case, it is the evidence that proves Mumia guilty, fantasies about police misconduct notwithstanding.

=so get off your
all merican bandwagon for cops because most
of them are just as vile as the thugs they are
supposed to protect us from....=

No, most of them are good, honest, hard-working men and women who protect innocent people from thugs like Mumia and the vermin who support him.


By DARKOVERLORED ( - 198.106.46.118) on Friday, February 16, 2001 - 09:24 pm:

we are the only people on the face of the earth that can kill not a few people and get away with it but millions of people there are many ways of trickery, as long as you sleep we will creep this is white mans law remeber that when you protest, thats what you get when you are together you blacks should try that sometime until then dont cry""""""""""""""


By White Vampire ( - 216.24.72.208) on Monday, March 12, 2001 - 10:24 am:

Concerning Mumia: I heard that Pennsylvania Gov. Tom Ridge was supposed to sign the execution order for the aforementioned. This is great! This dreadlocked turd will finally be taking a dirt nap> he represents what I hate most about black people. All they want to do is kill and rob, just like in Africa!


By His REALNESS HRH- DARKOVERLORD,AGAIN STOMPS ON THE IMPOSTOR DIRTYUNDERWEAR 198 AND HIS GIRLFRIEND216,MUMIA WILL BE AVENGED,THAT YOU CAN DEPEND ON! ( - 12.81.65.63) on Monday, March 12, 2001 - 12:43 pm:

216/198 TWO MORE GOOD REASONS FOR WHITE BIRTH CONTROL.BOTH OF THESE FAKERS, COULDN'T INTELLECTUALLY TOUCH MUMIA'S SHOES.THE REASON THEY WANT SO BADLY TO SEE HIM KILLED IS THE SAME REASON THEY ARE HERE,FEAR OF STRONG INTELLIGENT BLACK MEN AND WOMEN WHO IF NEED BE WILL STOMP AND KILL ALL WHITE RACIST COCKROACHES LIKE THEM.
SO KNOW MATTER HOW 198 DIRTYUNDERWEAR OR HIS BUTTBUDDY 216,GO ON ABOUT MUMIA ONE THINGS FOR SURE,IF HE DIES THEN A BUNCH OF YOU CRACKERS WILL BE NEXT!


By sac ( - 205.188.192.56) on Tuesday, March 13, 2001 - 07:10 am:

Oh, yes. Whites are just terrified of the black man's intelligence. Especially yours, DOL. Why, I'd take a baboon over you in a match of wits anyday. It's because of blacks like you that your race is the laughing-stock of the world. By the way, your name is now Kingfish!


By Jim ( - 63.212.165.196) on Tuesday, March 13, 2001 - 12:11 pm:

HRH:
Only people who share your crippled intellectual capacity would have trouble handling Mumia on an intellectual level. In short, he's an idiot and therefore appeals to fellow idiots. Worse, he's a racist killer and therefore appeals to racists and wanna-be killers. As for fearing strong, intelligent black men, you and I both know that is decidedly false. In fact, we wish there were more around -- men of dignity such as Colin Powell or Clarence Thomas. However, we seem to be innundated with spineless, racist dolts such as Mumia, Sharpton, the late Muhammad, Farrakhan the their millions of brain-dead followers. On a personal note, I hope Mumia is executed on live TV. It would be an event all people of conscience, which of course excludes you, would celebrate. One less rabid dog let loose in the world.


By White Vampire ( - 216.24.73.39) on Wednesday, March 14, 2001 - 03:56 pm:

Kingfish....Oh yeah-- off of Amos and Andy!!! Excellent, sac!! He probably looks more like Urkel off of Family Matters, though. But nonetheless, he is now "Kingfish." Hrh, the NEGRO-MILTANT-"BROTHA". He's sooooooooooooo bad!!! Wha ha hah ahhaha ha!!!!


By GOD ( - 24.132.167.193) on Sunday, March 18, 2001 - 12:51 pm:

Colored Folk


Most of the so-called Europeans of today are not really Caucasians. They are Mulattos. The pure Caucasian stock are those people with blond hair and blue eyes.
If you were to snatch the hood off most K.K.K., you would not find blond haired, blue eyed Aryans (nobles). You would find dark haired, dark eyed mulattos, who think that they are white. Most skinheads do not have blond hair and blue eyes, nor did the German Chancellor Adolph Hitler.

Unbeknown to them, they are a part of the Negroid race. They are the coloreds.


By Paul Morgan ( - 131.252.180.211) on Sunday, March 18, 2001 - 09:20 pm:

JIM WHAT WHY DO YOU WASTE YOU VALUABLE TIME ON THIS BLACK SITE YOUR KNOWLEGE COULD BE USED TO HELP YOUR BROTHERS ON WWW. WHITE POWER. COM
YOU NEED TO SPEND MORE TIME WITH YOUR FAMILY WE HAVE NOT HEARD FROM YOU IN A WHILE COME BACK HOME.


By white Vampire ( - 216.24.73.136) on Monday, March 19, 2001 - 09:11 am:

Hey Jim , please note everything that would come from Paul would be on 216. He's not here to defend himself against this queer, 131, whose ass I would stomp if he was within a day's drive or so. This imposter is too much of a tesicle-licker to make up his own name!!


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