Shy DC Teen

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Reidc5 ( - 205.188.200.201) on Saturday, January 20, 2001 - 09:14 pm:

During the 99 Kwanzaa season when my wife, my son and I went to a Kwanzaa Expo in Washington, DC 1999 we met a group of young artist that had a booth. The purpose of this group was to teach the kids the business side of their craft and also to improve and practice their skills. They were offering membership and instruction for kids. We have a 15yr son whose name is Shomari. Since the age of 3yr he has always had an interest in art. Now that he is a teen we are trying to build his confidence. We thought taking a class and joining this group of young artist/entrepreneurs would be a good experience for Shomari. Our problem is a whole year has gone by and we have lost all the information as far as name, phone and so on about this organization. Is anyone familiar we this group of young artist.


By White Vampire ( - 216.24.71.40) on Saturday, March 3, 2001 - 09:12 pm:

Shomari? what tha f>u>c>k? Did you name him after the Atari, or what? Or short for "show" "my" "reefer"? That'll be great for when he starts dealing drugs if he isn't already(and I'm sure he is)! Wha ha ha ha ha ha!!!


By Maria ( - 24.130.192.181) on Monday, March 5, 2001 - 02:53 pm:

I have no idea what this group may have been. Have you searched the internet? And by the way, I like the name Shomari.


By White Vamp ( - 216.24.71.105) on Monday, March 5, 2001 - 09:08 pm:

Well, you're just a ball-licking whore, and your opinion does not count.


By Maria ( - 24.130.192.181) on Tuesday, March 6, 2001 - 04:28 am:

lol, everyone on this site thinks that of you. Your opinion does NOT matter to me. In fact it makes me laugh. So thank you for making yourself comedy to me.


By Whitey Vamp ( - 216.24.71.150) on Tuesday, March 6, 2001 - 02:12 pm:

What? You didn't (really)insult me....are you feeling O.K.? The Great White Vampire is always ready for a laugh...........or for beer and sex for that matter....I've got the beer, Maria(it's Heineken)...so c'mon over and we'll talk about the first thing that COMES up.

P.S. I guess I'd better not refer to myself a s "the Great White Vampire" anymore, because referring to myself in the third person is too much like hrh, a.k.a. darkoverlord , that piece of s>h>i>t! Regards, White Vampire


By HRH- again has to smack and stomp white turd -216 much to his delight! ( - 12.81.89.223) on Tuesday, March 6, 2001 - 02:44 pm:

Maria iT's always great to see the affect I have even when I'm not around. This sucbuus 216 , knows I have taught him well. He knows that HRH,will kick his flat white ass if he dares disrespect his EMINENACE,even when I'm not here.Good boy now get back in your box until I summon you vial smelling white turd of backwardness.


By White Vampire ( - 216.24.73.199) on Sunday, March 11, 2001 - 06:40 pm:

Hrh, if we met, I can just about GUARANTEE I'd beat you half to death.Enough said.


By HRH- refuses to let 216, beat his meat,know matter how much this pale cumspot begs,get off your knees cracker,ya gets no lunch, asswipe! ( - 12.81.65.63) on Monday, March 12, 2001 - 01:11 pm:

Again we are treated to the sounds of a white racist worm attempting to talk,but we can't hear it cuz it has a dik in it's mouth as usual. OOOO wait, it said,"it would beat my meat to death". Well since I don't have sex with corpse or boys,that's not likely to happen.And if these maggot meant he would fight me,how could he do it on his knees with his ass up in the air?I'll just bet he does alot of beating in his area,since we know how much racist crackers like him and 63 love to circle jerk them selves off at this site.Buttboys will always be talking about sucking and fuking cuz thats all they know. The only thing this fool 216 will do for me is contiune sniffing my ••••••• 63,cuz he dam sure ain't gona do a goddam thing but get his already dead ass wipeout,if he even thought about fuking with ,HRH.


By Jim ( - 63.212.165.196) on Monday, March 12, 2001 - 03:04 pm:

HRH:
Wasn't it you who just chastised us for refering to sex organs? Yet here you are, as usual, doing just that. You seem to have a real fixation on male genitalia and on images of men with their rear ends up in the air. If that's what you're into, which it certainly seems to be, that's your business, but please don't chastise others for personality traits and behavior patterns that are yours and not theirs. Thank you.


By GOD ( - 24.132.167.193) on Monday, March 12, 2001 - 06:29 pm:

GOD ARRIVES

(THUNDER IS HEARD LOUD AND THE GROUND SHAKE'S AND THE BLACKNESS DESENDS FROM THE HEAVENS TRIPPLEBLACKNESS STOPS ALL MATTER FROM MOVING ,THE LIGHT CAN NOT COMPREHEND THE TRIPPLEBLACK MATTER AND THUS ALL LIGHT IS NO MORE TO BE SEEN IT IS ALL BLACK NOW)


GOD SPEAKS WITH THE SOUND OF MANY WATERS:


O YE MEMBERS OF THE CURSED TRIBE'S

BOW DOWN LET YOUR FORHEAD TOUCH THE GROUND ON WICH YOU STAND

GOD SPEAKS TO THE PALE DE-EVOLUTED MEMBERS OF THE CURSED TRIBES:

O YE GENTILE PALE'S, DECENDANTS OF THE ALBINO TRIBE OF ESAU THOU SHALL BE JUDGED SOON!


(THE LUNGS OF THE CURSED HUEMANS VIBRATE HARD AS GOD ENDS HIS SENTENCE)

GOD LEAVE'S AND ACENDS INSIDE HIS HOLY SHIP INTO THE BLACKNESS OF SPACE WHERE GOD DWELLS FOR ALL ETERNITY!

(THE LIGHT COME'S BACK AND NOW THE PALE CAN SEE THEIR MISRABLE DE-EVOLUTED SELF ONCE AGAIN AND FEEL THE AGONY OF MENTAL PAIN AS THEY KNOW THAT THE UNIVERSE IS BLACK,THEY GO MADD NOW THEY KNOW THAT THEY ARE SUROUNDED BY BLACK 360 DEGREES ALL AROUND THEM,AND THEY KNOW THEY CANOT FLEE FROM THAT BLACK UNIVERSAL FACT!)


By White Vampire ( - 216.24.71.104) on Thursday, March 15, 2001 - 10:44 am:

Well ,Greg, all I can say is COME AND GET ME!!!


By Maria ( - 24.130.192.181) on Thursday, March 15, 2001 - 12:10 pm:

Jim-why do you defend 216?


By GOD ( - 24.132.167.193) on Thursday, March 15, 2001 - 02:57 pm:

TO WHITE VAMPIRE!!!!!!!


YA AZZZ IS GETTING DISARMED BY THE UN!!!

AMERIKKKA IS BROKE SINCE 1933


AND YA AMENDMANT IS GONE THERE NOW IS A NEW LAW!!

AND READ THIS:


Americans are losing their rights, homes, and livelihoods as federal agencies move to lock up vast tracts of land throughout the West in accord with the UN,'s Wildlands Project.

Five years ago, Diana Luppi was a successful novelist and screenwriter, and the owner of a beautiful home near Pagosa Springs, Colorado. Today she is homeless, debt-ridden, and saddled with a spurious criminal conviction. Tried by a federal district judge rather than a jury of her peers, Miss Luppi was sentenced to six months in prison and hammered with a $5,000 fine ," a sentence that was suspended in favor of two years of probation, on the condition that she sign away her property rights. Through a federal agency,'s creative application of an obscure provision of the 1996 counter-terrorism law, Ms. Luppi was effectively designated a "terrorist" in order for federal officials to slap two $5,000 liens on her home.

What heinous offense did Diana Luppi commit? Simply put, Ms. Luppi, an "inholder" (a landowner whose property is surrounded by federal lands), was seen going home, on several occasions, by multiple witnesses. In order to do so, she had to use the only route by which her home could be reached, a road to which she had clear and unambiguous right-of-way. In 1996, shortly after she had purchased the home, the Forest Service demanded that Luppi ," like all of her neighbors ," sign an "easement" agreement through which she would pay for the privilege of using that road. Luppi,'s refusal to cooperate precipitated the legal nightmare she now endures.

"The federal government has essentially ruined my life," Luppi told THE NEW AMERICAN. "My home is gone, my credit is ruined, my career has been disrupted, I,'ve got no place to live except when I,'m house-sitting for someone. I just can,'t bear any more in my life, but I,'ve got to fight this battle ," someone has to."

According to David Engdahl, a former assistant attorney general for the state of Colorado who currently teaches at Seattle University School of Law, Diana Luppi,'s predicament is a microcosm of the ongoing battle over the fate of property rights in the western United States ," and across the country. "Diana Luppi,'s case is a good example of the methods being used by the Forest Service and the Department of the Interior to shut down public access to federally controlled lands throughout the West," Engdahl told THE NEW AMERICAN. "The Forest Service, the Bureau of Land Management [BLM], and the Interior Department have been looking for a way to minimize public access to these lands, and they will take advantage of anything they can toward that end. They have repeatedly displayed their willingness to ignore anything that stands in their way ," including the basic rights of citizens, the existing federal statutes, and the clearly expressed will of Congress."

Road Wars

The tract of land purchased by Luppi in June 1995 was originally owned by J.D. Lister, a settler who obtained the property under the Homestead Act of 1862. That property is now within the boundaries of the San Juan National Forest Reserve, which was created by a presidential proclamation in 1905. However, because Teddy Roosevelt,'s decree excluded "all lands which may have been, prior to the date hereof, embraced in any legal entry covered by any lawful filing duly of record in the proper United States Land Office," it became what is now known as an "inholding" ," an island of private property surrounded by federal lands. Lister obtained a patent to the land in 1919.

Luppi,'s sole means of reaching her property were two short road segments ," "Forest Development Road 629" and a short access road that was connected directly to her property. These are the same roads that Lister had used almost a century and a half ago. They appear as wagon roads in a map that was produced by the Army in 1881. This fact is crucial to Luppi,'s right-of-way claim. During the summer months, Forest Road 629 is open to the public. But during the winter, U.S. Forest Service officials close and lock the gate below the access road that was used by Luppi and several other property owners. Property owners were allowed to pass through the gate and use Forest Road 629 to gain access to their homes ," but only after they signed easement agreements with the Forest Service and paid an annual fee.

All of the area homeowners, including the previous owner of the property Luppi purchased, signed the easement agreements. When Luppi was informed by the Forest Service in April 1996 that she needed to transfer the easement agreement to her name and pay a small fee, she was puzzled by the idea. "I had gone through the closing on the property without the Title company telling me that there would be a problem of this sort," Luppi explained to THE NEW AMERICAN. "Besides, it seemed strange to me that I would have to pay for the privilege of having access to my own home. In spite of that, I did inform the Forest Service that I would be willing to cooperate, if that,'s what the law requires." However, as Luppi investigated the issue further she came to the conclusion that "I was being asked to pay a fee to sign my property rights away to the Forest Service." Because she balked at this proposition, Luppi soon found herself in court, facing criminal charges without the benefit of counsel or a jury trial.

Legal Labyrinth

In early 1998, the Forest Service filed a "criminal information" document charging Luppi with using the access road without authorization on three occasions between February 1997 and February 1998. These supposed offenses were classified as "petty misdemeanors" punishable with a maximum sentence of six months imprisonment and a fine of up to $5,000. She had not been accused of committing acts of violence or vandalism, or of injuring persons or property. She was charged as a criminal for simply going home.

The convoluted nature of the statutes involved in this case gave Forest Service officials both a psychological and tactical advantage. They were able to use the threat of a prison term and an extortionate fine as leverage to induce Luppi to sign an easement agreement. However, by seeking a sentence involving prison time, the Forest Service would be required to make their case to a jury ," something they did not want to do. "I,'m pretty sure that a jury would have found it as bizarre as I did that I was being treated as a criminal for driving home," Luppi commented to THE NEW AMERICAN. Accordingly, the prosecution announced that it would decline to seek a prison term ," thereby allowing the case to be heard before a federal magistrate judge, rather than by a jury of Luppi,'s peers.

With no legal training and only a vague understanding of the legal issues involved, Luppi mounted a defense based upon the argument that the lands in question were not owned by the Forest Service, but rather by the state of Colorado. However, Luppi,'s case turns on a much narrower issue ," namely, the question of right-of-way on the ancient access roads.


By GOD ( - 24.132.167.193) on Thursday, March 15, 2001 - 02:57 pm:

In January 2000, under the threat of prison time and a $5,000 fine, and with two $5,000 liens placed upon her property by the feds, Luppi signed an easement agreement and made a token payment of $50.00 toward the balance of $650.96 in fees demanded by the Forest Service. As she did so she stipulated that she was acting "under duress." Satisfied that Luppi had made the necessary concessions, the feds filed notice with both the federal District Court and the Tenth Circuit Court of Appeals that the criminal case against Luppi was being terminated. As far as the feds were concerned, the issue was now moot, and the point had been made.

By the time she signed the easement, Luppi had lost her home. Her legal battle against a foe with limitless resources had depleted her savings, and exhausted her access to credit. "I was trying to fight this battle from cheap motel rooms, and conducting my legal business by pay phones," she pointed out to THE NEW AMERICAN. "Under the terms of my probation I was locked out of my home, but under the terms of my mortgage I was still required to make payments on it. But the legal bills I ran up meant that the payments didn,'t get made, and the bank foreclosed on my home."

The two $5,000 liens on her home further compounded Luppi,'s problems. The liens were filed pursuant to section 901 of the "Antiterrorism and Effective Death Penalty Act of 1996," a measure that was passed in the aftermath of the Oklahoma City bombing. While the measure was being debated in Congress, some of its proponents admitted that they could not anticipate its impact upon innocent Americans. "It is disturbing to me when the Congress is faced with a decision to increase protection for the people by chipping away at the edges of freedom," allowed Senator Patty Murray (D-Wash.), a supporter of the act. "We have no idea what kind of mistakes will be made, or whose rights will be infringed, when this bill is implemented."

How did it happen that a measure supposedly intended to freeze the assets of terrorists in the employ of Hamas, Hezbollah, and the IRA was used against Diana Luppi? The U.S. attorney,'s office devised a remarkably inventive ," if not patently dishonest ," legal rationale: The "criminal information" filed against Luppi charged her with three counts of committing crimes "within the special maritime and territorial jurisdiction of the United States" ," that is, within the San Juan National Forest. Section 901 of the 1996 antiterrorism act applies the provisions of that law to areas within the "Special Maritime and Territorial Jurisdiction" ," but only with reference to crimes committed upon the "Extended Territorial Sea." Nothing in Section 901 of the antiterrorism act applies to crimes committed on national forest lands. Nonetheless, the feds ," displaying the depraved creativity that is the hallmark of the totalitarian mind ," invoked that provision to justify placing liens upon Luppi,'s home.

In recent years, various "sovereign citizen" activists have urged their followers to place bogus liens upon the property of judges, sheriffs, and other public officials. The use of such liens has been denounced by the Anti-Defamation League and other leftist "watchdog" groups as "paper terrorism." The use of clearly spurious liens against Diana Luppi must be considered an act of "paper terrorism" perpetrated by the U.S. attorney,'s office ," and once again, the purpose of this terror campaign was to bully Luppi into surrendering her property rights.

"I would have to describe the tactics of the federal government in my case as a form of racketeering," Luppi stated to THE NEW AMERICAN. "They,'re just like gangsters, but even worse, because they are supposed to be upholding the law and defending our rights."

Federal Scofflaws

Although federal officials had an obvious advantage in terms of money and legal firepower, Luppi had the written law on her side. As Engdahl explained to The New American, "Diana Luppi has a sound and compelling case, despite the very flawed legal strategy she initially pursued." Engdahl outlined the salient points of that case in a memo prepared for a federal public defender assigned to represent Luppi. "It is evident ,─Â that Ms. Luppi does own a right-of-way over the National Forest land in question to access the inholding containing her home," wrote Engdahl. "That right-of-way was granted by Congress, and federal statutes protect it from Forest Service or other federal officer interference or constraint. If (as it appears) she does own this right-of-way, no ,─˛special-use authorization,' can lawfully be required of her...."

In 1866, seeking to encourage settlement of the West, Congress passed a measure declaring: "The right of way for the construction of highways over public lands, not reserved for public uses, is hereby granted." (The term "highways," in this context, includes wagon roads, footpaths, and other such avenues; "construction" is defined not as a public works undertaking, but rather any effort that results in the creation of such a road.) This grant was re-enacted in 1878 as section 2477 of the "Revised Statutes of the United States" (RS 2477). This provision, observed Engdahl, was "the legal foundation for the infrastructure of transportation and civilization in the American West. Tens of thousands of access roads for farms, mines, and other private developments, as well as very many of the public highways in Colorado and other so-called ,─˛public land states,,' are RS 2477 roads."

RS 2477 remained in effect until the passage of the Federal Land Policy Management Act (FLPMA) in 1976. Section 509 of FLPMA stipulated that the measure did not terminate "any right-of-way or right-of-use heretofore issued, granted, or permitted" under RS 2477. This "grandfather clause" protected all existing rights-of-way ," including that which had been given to J.D. Lister who settled in what is now Pagosa Springs, Colorado, more than a century ago.

J.D. Lister, the original owner of the property bought by Luppi, "accessed his homestead by the roadway here at issue (which was the only road), and continued using it pursuant to RS 2477" until he obtained a land patent in 1919, Engdahl explained. Under the terms of Lister,'s 1919 land patent, the United States conveyed to the settler the parcel of land "with all appurtenances thereof, unto the said claimant, and to the heirs and assigns of the said claimant." Because Luppi,'s property "is a part of the old Lister homestead, and her title and rights are derived from his patent," she acquired "the RS 2477 right-of-way over the only route of access to the property," Engdahl observed.

"Even if that road (already two generations old) had not yet become a public highway, its use was (in legal jargon) an ,─˛easement appurtenant,' to the Lister Homestead," Engdahl pointed out. "Ms. Luppi does not need to buy an easement [from the Forest Service]; she already owns an ample legal easement.... Indeed, ironically, the new easement she is being coerced to buy recites expressly that it is ,─˛subject to existing easements and valid rights,'; her new easement would therefore be subject to the greater easement she already has, and thus by its terms superfluous...."

But the easement Luppi was forced to sign was not merely "superfluous." The "reservations" clause of the document specified that the easement is "subject to periodic unilateral change of terms and conditions by the Government," that Luppi would be liable "to pay for road maintenance as determined solely by the Government," and that the Government would have the option of relocating the road at whim. The actions of the Forest Service in coercing Luppi to sign the easement agreement, Engdahl concluded, represented "a lawless affront to the rights vested in her by explicit grants from the United States...."


By GOD ( - 24.132.167.193) on Thursday, March 15, 2001 - 02:59 pm:

AMERICA IS UNDER ARREST!!

YALL ARE GETTING DISARMED!!

BY THE UN!!

PREPARE TO BE CHIPED!!

HAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA


By Maria ( - 24.130.192.181) on Friday, March 16, 2001 - 03:41 am:

I can't believe you have that much time on your hands to type that much info...I don't even have time to read it.


By Jim ( - 63.212.165.196) on Friday, March 16, 2001 - 10:59 am:

Just out of curiosity, what's "chiped"?


By GOD ( - 24.132.167.193) on Friday, March 16, 2001 - 11:06 am:

CHIPED MEANS:

A CHIP INPLANTED UNDER YOUR SKIN AT 2 POSITIONS NAMLY:


YOUR FORHEAD

AND YOUR RIGHT HAND SMAK IN THE MIDDLE!!


By GOD ( - 24.132.167.193) on Friday, March 16, 2001 - 11:15 am:

CHECK IT HERE:

http://www.davidicke.net/newsroom/global/pics/IDchip.jpg


By White Vampire ( - 216.24.72.85) on Friday, March 16, 2001 - 11:23 am:

Oh, Greg, do shut up, (if you can)!(yawn)


By GOD ( - 24.132.167.193) on Friday, March 16, 2001 - 11:50 am:

O YEAH GO CHECK HERE YA FOOLS FOR FACT STRAIGHT FROM THE HIGH BOYS FROM THE UNITED NATIONS:


http://www.idchip.com/s1/idchip.htm

I AM ALWAYS RIGHT HAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

THE PROOF FOR YALLLLL SUCKERS!!


By Jim ( - 63.212.165.196) on Friday, March 16, 2001 - 11:54 am:

Gregster:
If you can come out of that haze you're in for a minute, the word would be "chipped," not "chiped."

Okay, you can now return to your fantasy world.


By Maria ( - 24.130.192.181) on Friday, March 16, 2001 - 02:18 pm:

lol, Jim


By Jim ( - 63.212.165.196) on Friday, March 16, 2001 - 04:05 pm:

Thanks! ;-)


By Alcohol-deprived White Vampire ( - 216.24.71.8) on Sunday, March 18, 2001 - 04:02 pm:

Before we're all "chiped", can someone pass me a beer through the 'net? I just ran out!! If I don't get one soon I'll start acting like........like.............uh.......Greg!! We haven't been paying enough attention to the little prick-swab, so he posted some rambling garbage on every conversation site!!


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